Caribia Languishes in New York - Part 2
As described by Rob Mason…
Although I never had the opportunity to actually sail on Caronia, I was able to visit her twice
in New York when the ship was still in service. I remember my first visit in late 1965. My parents
took me along when they visited some of their friends that were sailing. The Caronia sailed early
in the day, Home Line's brand new Oceanic was also in port and sailing later in the afternoon,
so we visited the Oceanic.
I can remember how modern, bright and up-to-date the Oceanic appeared, compared to the Caronia that we had just left.
[Left:]
Starboard aft end view of Caribia at New York in 1971
Photo:
Courtesy of Rob Mason
Two swimming pools under that sliding glass skylight, the Italian band playing, waiters circulating with trays of pizza, the glass enclosed promenade with a real ceiling and floor-to-ceiling glass walls, and wall-to-wall carpeting everywhere.
I remember begging my parents to never sail on the Caronia; we had to sail on the Oceanic! She was just so modern! I visited the Caronia again in late 1966 and that was the last I saw of the ship until 1971 when she was moored, stern-first, between piers 84 and 86 in New York.
As an Architecture student in the early 1970s, I managed to find the address of Mr. Andrew Konstaninidis, the last owner of the Caronia, now renamed Caribia. Under the pretence of preparing a school report about Art Deco (this was 1972, and the revival of the Art Deco style had not yet been popularised), I obtained an invitation to visit the ship.
On the appointed day, I ascended the makeshift gangway, which was a very, very steep baggage ramp that extended from the edge of 12th Avenue straight up to the stern of the ship's pool deck.
[Photos: Courtesy of Rob Mason]
Minimal Security
Rob Mason continues…
At the top of the gangway was a residential-style wooden door with a doorbell. I rang the bell,
holding onto the doorknob for balance. Several minutes later Mr. Konstantinidis opened the door
to me. He asked if I needed an escort to tour the ship, and when I said “no”, he
told me to have a good time, be careful and make sure that I locked the door when I left. He
then disappeared back into the ship.
Photo: Courtesy of Rob Mason
Can you imagine anyone being allowed to wander unescorted through any ship these days? Especially through a long laid-up liner. There was no power on board.
The only illumination came through the windows. Along the corridors on the lower decks, the only light came through the portholes and through the cabin doorways, virtually all of which were left open. (The doors that is, not the portholes).
Once Aboard
Rob continues…
I started my tour on the bridge. Unfortunately, this was one of the very few rooms that were locked,
so I could only look in from the outside bridge wings. I toured the officer's quarters, then the
cabins on Sun Deck. All the linens had been removed, but everything else in the cabins was intact;
the telephones, the water thermos', all the furniture, the draperies, even the hangers in the
wardrobes.
[Photos: Courtesy of Rob Mason]
On the Promenade Deck, it appears as though every deck chair onboard had been placed in the forward observation lounge. All of the corridors, foyers and stairs had been wall-to-wall carpeted (competition with the Oceanic?(!) These were very unattractive (even for 1972) and cheap looking carpets that clashed very badly with all the classic wood panelling.
With no ventilation onboard, virtually all of this carpeting was buckling. In the darkness of the windowless rooms and stairs it was extremely hazardous to navigate and not trip. One of the elevator doors was opened, but there was no elevator at the landing. Just a big, black hole that descended all the way to the bottom of the ship, for all I could tell.
Most of the ships’ furnishings were being used, exactly from the Caronia's days. However, it was also supplemented with an assortment of cheap and incongruous looking aluminium-framed chairs, typical of the early 1970s (think original QE2 furniture, but without QE2's style or quality) in an apparent attempt to modernise the dark, dated interiors of the ship.

Photo: Courtesy of Rob Mason
As in the Sun Deck cabins, virtually all of the Main Deck cabins were intact, except for their linens. A really strong old/musty/damp smell permeated everything on the lower decks. The wood veneer on many doors had started to split and there were many areas where paint was beginning to peel from its surfaces.
Along the corridors, almost every ceiling access panel was open. Many were propped and held open from above, many were just hanging loose in the corridor, which, in the darkness of the ship, was another safety hazard.
Recycling Cunard Resources
Rob continues…
One of the cabins had apparently become the storeroom for printed material. There were boxes
and boxes of blank Cunard menu stock. I helped myself to several of Caribia's first-and-only
cruise menus and daily programmes. They were all printed on blank Cunard paper stock. Apparently,
the Caribia's new owners were not going to waste anything that was left on board from the Caronia.
Photo: Courtesy of Rob Mason
I wanted to visit the restaurants and the kitchen, but I decided it was just too dark and too dangerous to descend lower into the ship without a hardhat and a very strong torch. By now, I had been wandering for almost four hours and as the sun was setting, it was getting very dark on board.
I decided it would be wise to leave the ship, in order to navigate that steep ramp back down to the street. I could not find Mr. Konstaninidis to thank him, so I made sure the door locked behind me as I carefully made my way down to 12th Avenue.
Shortly after my visit, the New York Port Authority fined the ship for illegal mooring and she was moved to abandoned Pier 54. Ironically, this was one of the old Cunard piers from the 1920s and 1930s.
In 1971, I was able to gain entry to the adjacent abandoned pier and take a few exterior pictures of the Caribia. The entrance to Pier 54 was guarded by a very unco-operative individual, who made it absolutely clear that visitors were neither wanted nor permitted on the pier, and certainly not on board the ship.
The story continues with…
- Annette Donner's account of Caribia's final demise at Guam
- Pier 54 - An Art-Deco sale like no other!
- Photos of Pier 54 Sale items (1)
- Photos of Pier 54 Sale items (2)
If you can contribute any information, do please get in touch…

